is there somebody who knows any indigenous peoples language that is no...

roma_leofox Posted during private beta

is there somebody who knows any indigenous peoples language that is not dominant in a state? like latgalian/flemish/livonian/manx etc. or maybe someone who is interested in exploring that field and discussing the issue of languages diversity policy and actual situation.

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smdowson

Flemish is not a language its a dialect of dutch.Dutch is also the dominant language of the state of Vlaanderen. However, I was learning Scots-Gaelic which is super interesting and not the dominant language of Scotland although it is indigenous to the country. Same goes with Irish, Bretonic (de Bretagne) and loads of celtic languages. Basque is a non indo-european language found in both Basque country Spain & France. Which makes it super unique

1 year

roma_leofox

@smdowson thank you! it is really interesting. yep i honestly discussed that issue with my teachers, and we found out that there are some linguistics researchers who define flemish as a separate language. but honestly we didn’t pay much attention to that topic. I suppose its situation is similar to besermyan and udmurt languages in my case :)

1 year

smdowson

@roma_leofox I guess its the natural linguistic development for dialects to eventually become languages, such as Brazil wanting to redefine Brazilian as a language instead of a dialect of Portuguese. What do you think of that ?

1 year

roma_leofox

@smdowson to be honest, i suppose that it is first of all the intention of my mental state to separate languages even if they are more likely to be just dialects of one (for latgalian-latvian l-s case same situation, for montenegrian and serbian as well) caused by the policy of Russia in field of languages of its indigenous peoples. i see all of the actions of our government and can’t just accept it… it hurts.

1 year

roma_leofox

@smdowson so when it comes to Brazilian and Portuguese, i don’t have enough knowledge. Nevertheless, I am sure that at least they have political right for own and separate language development. oftenly it is a part of decolonisation processes that is not only coming to linguistic but also to social, cultural and especially economic fields… so there are lots of difficulties. but that is why it is interesting to discuss.

1 year

smdowson

@roma_leofox yeh thats such a good point, I hadn’t considered the colonial & political underpinnings or what is classified as a language ! It would be interesting to see if Gramsci’s theory of hegemonic culture can be applied to linguistics and who decided what is a dialect vs a language ! 😮

1 year

roma_leofox

@smdowson oh thank u really for this theory mentioning. I will research it deep! I didn’t know about it. Just being a resident of colonised finno-ugric republic so))

1 year

roma_leofox

@smdowson are you from France btw?

1 year

smdowson

@roma_leofox I study at the University of Glasgow, we learnt about it in our populism course.

1 year

roma_leofox

@smdowson do u mind if i pm u?:)

1 year

smdowson

@roma_leofox no problem

1 year

jakobstahl__

I know like 30 German dialects

1 year

roma_leofox

@jakobstahl__ wow! impressive amount

1 year

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