What do we think of footballers that refuse to wear shirts with Pride Rainbow logo due to religious reasons, but happily wear shirts with gambling sponsors logos?
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jcp
I don’t need to see professional athletes wear a rainbow shirt to feel accepted
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beano
@jcp fair enough! However, the fact is, the ones who refuse to wear it do not accept you.
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beano
@juvenlee_surrealart hypocrisy of it just makes me laugh, just shows the issue is with LGBTQ+ people, not with all the other “sins”…
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ethantroy
Hate hate hateeeee it. FIFA and football in general has its own corrupt politics that need sorting out tho
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beano
@ethantroy sucks as a United fan seeing one of our players convince the entire team to not wear the pride campaign warm up gear…
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Its pink washing whatever, I dont care
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beano
@ethantroy Mazraoui… didn’t want to wear the warmup gear so entire squad chose not to wear it as sign of “togetherness”
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ethantroy
@beano oh get lost. Shame because I got into the World Cup this year, but the culture steers me away every time
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beano
@ethantroy nooo stick with it, honestly things are improving, World Cup is the most corrupt place to start… it gets better I promise
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ethantroy
@beano ok I’ll take your word for it and follow a few players on insta haha ; seems like a better place to start
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zashari
Typical “religious” hypocrite. People love to pick and choose and then use a shitty excuse. I’m not surprised anymore.
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rickeyxo
I feel like they still sucking dick in the locker rooms, rainbow logo or not lol
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ethantroy
@rickeyxo see idk how I feel about this take, don’t you think it sorta reflects the reason homophobia exists back at us? That way, we’re made to feel responsible for the prejudice against us. (Just a friendly disagreement!) x
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rickeyxo
@ethantroy that’s fair, but playfully I was saying people will protest against the lgbtq community just to find out that they are “sucking dick” in the locker room to. They have a right to represent themselves however they see fit so I honestly don’t have a problem with it. Some days I want to rock my rainbow gear other days I don’t 🤷🏽‍♂️
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ethantroy
@rickeyxo yeah I think this is a good discussion which then overlaps with the standards we hold different types of people depending on the extent of their public visibility. I, personally, think there is more responsibility for high-profile (such as footballers) than low-profile/ ‘normal’ (such as ourselves) people to openly support LGBTQ+ people and identities x
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rickeyxo
@ethantroy their platform does have influence but not more than our own community. We appreciate our allies but we have to respect their boundaries in how they choose to serve our community.
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beano
@rickeyxo I appreciate the discussion, just want to clarify this isn’t about optionally wearing “rainbow gear” like you or I may, this is about a public figure refusing to take part in a campaign to end homophobia, as that campaign clashed with his personal beliefs. That’s more than a boundary in how they choose to serve our community. Of course they have a right to do as they please, but it’s still homophobia regardless 🤷🏻‍♂️
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rickeyxo
Thanks for the context, I think forcing someone to support something they clearly don’t care for is a dead end. People now want to identify this action and place a label on it. I don’t think it’s that’s deep to be honest. nobody can force me to represent a cause I’m not supportive of either.
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rickeyxo
I don’t know the guy, but if he supports, his peer might insult him on that, if he doesn’t our community might insult him on that, so he might feel a loss either way it goes and decided to play it safe
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rickeyxo
Now the question becomes are we willing to support something beyond our religious ideology ? I think everyone should be against homophobia but how they choose to stand up against it is up to them. Him wearing that shirt would have been a +1 but he could be defending the community in other ways that we might not see in public. Idk that’s just my thoughts respectfully.
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lav
Simple, they can get fucked with a chainsaw. 🤌🏻
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helloitsgui
We think the only God they serve is money
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microwarvee
I don’t think we can or should force anybody to wear anything, to respond to some of the comments here, because the changes we should be making are structural and not on an individual politics level. That said, your point is obviously (I think) not about that; as a Catholic, I consider it ABSURD that anyone would refuse to wear something that affirms the dignity and equality of queer people on religions grounds while happily wearing not only gambling logos, but all sorts of sponsors that are harming the planet.
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